You go the primary reminder of Llanelli’s rugby id earlier than you even attain the city.
In Felinfoel stands a statue of Phil Bennett, captain of the Llanelli group which famously beat New Zealand in 1972.
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A couple of miles additional on, Welsh Sports activities Corridor of Fame inductee Ray Gravell is immortalised outdoors Parc y Scarlets.
There are not any footballers or cricketers competing for house right here. The sporting story being advised is overwhelmingly certainly one of rugby.
Which makes the query hanging over the place notably brutal: what occurs if skilled rugby disappears from Llanelli?
The Welsh Rugby Union (WRU) plans to chop its skilled males’s groups from 4 to a few. Beneath its most popular mannequin, Scarlets or Ospreys will stop to exist by 2028.
Inside Parc y Scarlets, pictures of former groups and well-known victories cowl the partitions.
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Rugby autobiographies fill a bookshelf within the cafe, the place right this moment’s lunch for the gamers is roast beef.
Dwayne Peel wanders over.
The previous Wales and British and Irish Lions scrum-half is again teaching on the membership the place he started his profession. His grandfather was as soon as a physio right here, operating on with the magic sponge for Gravell.
Now Peel talks in regards to the faculty run and his son taking part in junior rugby.
Three generations, one recreation.
It’s a theme that retains returning throughout a day at Parc y Scarlets with the Scrum V Podcast.
Director of rugby Nigel Davies grew up in Trimsaran, a couple of miles away. Peel is from close by Tumble. A big proportion of the present squad grew up taking part in rugby within the cities and villages Scarlets signify.
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Even managing director Jon Daniels as soon as performed for close by Llangennech.
He believes that connection is exactly what’s at stake.
“We do not have Premier League or Championship soccer groups,” he stated.
“After they wish to play sport, they nonetheless play rugby within the (faculty) yards in west Wales.”
Later, his language turns into starker.
“I genuinely concern for west Wales if this continues the way in which it’s,” Daniels stated. “For the younger generations of Wales, I believe there could be an actual loss.”
It’s the emotional coronary heart of Scarlets’ argument for survival.
The issue is that Welsh rugby’s present predicament can’t be solved by emotion alone.
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The WRU holds a lot of the playing cards.
Scarlets could make their case, however can’t assure their very own future.
Daniels argues Welsh rugby ought to be asking the way it can protect 4 groups somewhat than accepting one should disappear.
“We’ve got not seen the numbers laid down in entrance of us to show that we won’t maintain 4,” he says.
However that raises an apparent query in return: the place are Scarlets’ numbers?
Daniels says season-ticket income is forward of final yr, attendances elevated by 7% final season, sponsorship is performing properly and the stadium is producing cash away from matchdays.
However when pressed on the place the extra cash wanted to maintain 4 correctly funded groups would come from, there is no such thing as a clear reply.
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As an alternative, he argues for time.
“Can we put collectively a 10-year plan the place, in 10 years’ time, we are able to have 4 aggressive, profitable, viable groups?” he asks.
It’s an argument for extra time however not but a funded various, and Scarlets don’t management the timetable.
James Davies gained silver with Workforce GB on the 2016 Olympic sevens in Rio [Huw Evans Picture Agency]
On one of many cafe partitions, amongst black-and-white pictures and pale previous jerseys, is a picture that appears strikingly fashionable.
The colors are sharp, the image unmistakably digital. It exhibits Scarlets celebrating their 2017 league title – the final time a Welsh group gained the competitors.
James ‘Cubby’ Davies performed in that group. Now he helps recruit the subsequent era.
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He says the “secret sauce” was connection.
“We constructed success on the pitch by means of a whole lot of the issues that we did off the pitch,” he stated. “We simply linked as a gaggle.”
Now his job is to construct one other.
Davies says that uncertainty over Welsh rugby’s future meant Scarlets have been late getting into the recruitment market final season.
There’s one other assembly with the WRU on the day we go to.
Davies talks about planning forward, then hesitates.
“We’re very hopeful of our… what is the phrase? Our existence, clearly,” he stated.
Existence.
A wierd phrase to listen to within the on a regular basis environment of an expert sports activities membership.
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On the opposite aspect of the stadium, previous a few burger vans with their shutters nonetheless down, round 40 gamers are taking part in soccer in an indoor coaching barn.
There’s shouting, laughter and arguing over selections.
After two opening defeats and loads of evaluation, director Davies desires folks smiling once more.
“It is all about bringing the vitality,” he says.
It’s putting to observe at a membership whose very existence is being debated.
Daniels calls the fixed hypothesis round Welsh rugby the “jungle drums”.
“Typically the potential impression on human beings is misplaced in all that,” he stated.
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But all the things carries on.
Gamers prepare. Coaches put together. Contracts are thought-about. Lunch is served.
That is what uncertainty appears to be like like inside a sports activities membership.
Largely, it appears to be like surprisingly regular.
9 miles away, one other membership could make its personal case.

Ospreys have gained three titles [Huw Evans Picture Agency]
Six Ospreys have been chosen for the 2013 British and Irish Lions tour – twice as many as the entire of Scotland. Solely two Welshmen made the Lions squad in 2025.
Ospreys are planning for the longer term too, with St Helen’s in Swansea being redeveloped as their new dwelling.
The geography is putting.
Llanelli’s built-up space has about 42,000 folks and Swansea’s round 170,000. Dublin metropolis alone has virtually 600,000. Johannesburg has thousands and thousands.
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It helps clarify the WRU’s logic.
On a map, consolidation can look apparent. On the bottom, Scarlets and Ospreys have totally different histories, communities and identities.
For now, Daniels refuses to just accept the selection and urges warning.
“We must always try this earlier than we simply bounce to ‘proper, we reduce two groups’, or now ‘we reduce one group’,” he says.
His argument is for 4.
But when the WRU presses forward with three, Scarlets and Ospreys will finally should make a distinct argument.
Not merely why they need to survive, why they need to survive as a substitute of the opposite.
By lunchtime, the soccer has stopped.
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Gamers drift again into the cafe. Plates of roast beef seem beneath pictures of those that got here earlier than them.
For now, Scarlets proceed with the unusually unusual enterprise of operating an expert rugby membership whereas ready to find whether or not they are going to stay one.